Volsung's builds (Overdrive DP7 )

AslanC · Post by **AslanC** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:49 pm

Love the art on this one

bigsteveuk · Post by **bigsteveuk** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:49 am

Nice and very jealous...

Volsung · Post by **Volsung** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:40 am

Thanks

I'm actually killing two birds with one stone on that concept art.
That character is also my subject for a 3d challenge on another forum.
I'll show you my work in progress.

kroh · Post by **kroh** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:44 am

Post the chalenge link please

Volsung · Post by **Volsung** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:19 am

kroh wrote:Post the chalenge link please

No way

I'll wait to make some progress on that character first!
I don't want to be outshined by those guys's mastery ^^

kroh · Post by **kroh** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:23 am

You shouldn't think of it as being outshined by others as much as it would be allowing the rest of us who have seen what you are doing the opportunity to cheer you on at another forum...

But if not... oh well... i will just have to enjoy your doodles here in silence...

Regards,
Walt

Volsung · Post by **Volsung** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:50 am

Ok you won
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/
3d mini #30
But please, don't log in only to cheer me up. Really that's not the point of that forum.

Volsung · Post by **Volsung** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:13 am

revising my sheet

Brawn: 2 Agility: 2 Mind: 2
Powers
Boost:(4xtotal) Defense when flying (2pt)
Charge: Special attack 1 Line effect (1pt)
Iron Will:Mind Shield 1 (x3 def total) (lpt)
Rocket Pock Mult. Power (6pts)
• Burst Push 4 (>8 effect) (4pts)
• Flight 4 (20 squares) (4pts)
Equipment: pistols range 10 ,6 shot, *2dmg 0pt

Weakness
Negating -2 (Medication)

Advantages
Never Surrender. Celebrity

Disadvantages
Public ID. Normal.

Skills
Athletics/Acrobatics. Pilot/Control, Military/Tactic*. Deception/Manipulation

(12 Stats ♦ 10 Powers - 2 Weakness ■ 20 pts)

A 'flying defense boost' for 2pt.
Imagine, if the dirty munchkin that I am would take that good old danger sense he'd have
+2x priority +2x defense all the time! And even some hints about dangers... That means Danger sense is way too cheap!

Anyway does that new build works?
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Lindharin · Post by **Lindharin** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:54 am

Volsung wrote:A 'flying defense boost' for 2pt.
Imagine, if the dirty munchkin that I am would take that good old danger sense he'd have +2x priority +2x defense all the time! And even some hints about dangers... That means Danger sense is way too cheap!

Or your boost is narrower than it has to be (which may or may not be appropriate).

Considering the archetype examples in the book range from Boost Mind With One Power (demi-god, living elemental-water, etc.) through Boost Mind With All Powers (Stellar Sentinel), it is clear that Boost can have a fairly broad range of acceptable criteria, depending on the concept.

If it fit the concept, I'd probably allow Boost Agility 2 While Flying, which is more valuable than just Boost Defense 2 While Flying, and that means Danger Sense isn't too cheap but just about right.

That's really the narrator's call, though. It seems like the intent behind boost is that it should apply maybe half the time (since it effectively costs half the price as buying the stat normally), but may be more limited than that depending on the concept - ie, you don't have to optimize it if the concept only requires something that applies a quarter of the time, etc.

Considering you're not flying all the time, and you can be knocked out of flight any time you take damage (Flight is a maintained power, not sustained, unless you take the Second Nature enhancement), I think you could make an argument for Boost Agility 2 While Flying, if that fit the concept. But really that is going to vary from Narrator to Narrator.

Lindharin · Post by **Lindharin** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:01 am

Looking at it another way, if the concept fits just boosting defense while flying, it should only cost 1 point for +2 defense:

Boost requires that is only usable in certain situations, but that doesn't actually count as a limitation; it is an inherent element of the power. So you can still apply another disadvantage to Boost, like making your Boost Gradual (ala the Hulk) or whatever.

So Boost Agility 2 For Defense Only is a legal power according to the book. That implies Boost Agility 2 For Defense [Limitation: Only While Flying] would be 1 point, not 2.

Volsung · Post by **Volsung** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:31 am

Sounds good, reeeaaal good.
But boosting agility would mean I could 'shoot' more accurately when flying.That's a bit unlikely don't you think?

Lindharin · Post by **Lindharin** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:33 am

Yes, which is why for your concept it might be better to go with Boost Agility 2 Only for Defense [Limit: Only While Flying] for 1 pt.

Volsung · Post by **Volsung** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:13 am

Brawn: 2 Agility: 2 Mind: 2

Powers
Boost Agility 2 Only for Defense (4x)[Limit: Only While Flying] 1 pt.
Charge: Special attack 1 Line effect (1pt)
Iron Will:Mind Shield 1 (x3 def total) (1pt)
Flight Jacket:Armour 1 (*3 Soak) (1pt)
Rocket Pock Mult. Power (6pts)
• Burst Push 4 (>8 effect) (4pts)
• Flight 4 (20 squares) (4pts)
Equipment: pistols range 10 ,6 shot, *2dmg 0pt

Weakness
Negating -2 (Medication)

Advantages
Never Surrender. Celebrity

Disadvantages
Public ID. Normal.

Skills
Athletics/Acrobatics. Pilot/Control, Military/Tactic*. Deception/Manipulation

(12 Stats ♦ 10 Powers - 2 Weakness ■ 20 pts)

gryfn · Post by **gryfn** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:50 pm

if you gave him the gadgetry advantage he could have
blaster pistol range 15 ,12 shot, *3dmg 0pt
by using the energy weapon rule from page 24