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Hey, not sure if I'm reading it right so I'll ask just out right.

Without armour/natural defence is there soak in sci fi edition? If so is it static or rolled?

Hi AngryGhost, there's no "natural" Soak in BASH! Sci-fi: only the power "Toughness" that simulate a sort of body armor.
In my BASH! Sci-Fi campaign I apply the rules of the italian version of BASH! UE ("SUPER!", Inspired Device) where there is the concept of Damage Resistance (RD), a sort of natural defense that everyone has, not considering artificial means of superpowers (battle armors, body armors and so on): the character can resist to incoming damage checking (2d6xCharacteristic) in this way
Hand-to-Hand combat -> RD is Brawn
Ranged attacks -> RD is Brawn
Thwon weapons -> RD is Brawn
Mental attacks -> RD is Mind
Eventually you can add levels of the superpower "Armor" to your Brawn in RD checks, if you want to buy it

Nighthawk wrote:Hi AngryGhost, there's no "natural" Soak in BASH! Sci-fi: only the power "Toughness" that simulate a sort of body armor.
In my BASH! Sci-Fi campaign I apply the rules of the italian version of BASH! UE ("SUPER!", Inspired Device) where there is the concept of Damage Resistance (RD), a sort of natural defense that everyone has, not considering artificial means of superpowers (battle armors, body armors and so on): the character can resist to incoming damage checking (2d6xCharacteristic) in this way
Hand-to-Hand combat -> RD is Brawn
Ranged attacks -> RD is Brawn
Thwon weapons -> RD is Brawn
Mental attacks -> RD is Mind
Eventually you can add levels of the superpower "Armor" to your Brawn in RD checks, if you want to buy it

Thanks for answering my question. I really like what you've done there. I'm going to use it as it is for now though as I'm planning on running something...a little more deadly

I'm agree with you, AngryGhost, because I'm playing a Star Trek setting and, when a Klingon use his hand disruptor not on stun but on disintegrate... well, there aren't not too possibilities for the poor security officer to survive
I would use this extended version of RD just to ensure to my players fun and cinematic play but I would also define clear rules on lethal damage, not explained well in BASH! Sci-Fi and absent in BASH! UE (due to its superheroic background).
Can we discuss here this aspect?

Well BASH! SF and Fantasy are "Heroic Scale" games- so they don't get "Soak" as a natural trait. Originally when I first made BASH! Fantasy and was testing it, we had a brawny Barbarian with a Brawn of 4 who seemed to be IMMUNE TO SWORD THRUSTS. They always did less damage than his soak. But I don't care how TOUGH you are, you get stabbed nine times with a sword, it's going to do SOMETHING to you!

So you don't get a soak by default. Instead you need to wear armor OR have Toughness. This means getting shot with a blaster can be deadly- but I've run several campaigns of BASH! SF and Fantasy and it hasn't been a problem.

A new power in BASH! Fantasy that would work well for BASH! SF would be "Sexy Armor" that is- even though you don't wear armor, you take 5 less damage per hit per level in that power (max level 3).

The SF equivilent could have something to do with "Plot immunity" or "I'm Not a Red-Shirt" etc.

Great, Bashman! These new rules sound good and I'll apply them as soon as possible in my campaign: I must only decide if rename the mundane power as "Hey! I'm not a red shirt" or "Plot Immunity"... maybe better the first
I'll wait for the new version of BASH! Fantasy

Hi Bashman, one question: how do I consider the power "Hey, I'm not a red shirt"/"Sexy Armor"/"Plot Immunity" in BASH! Sci-fi terms? A Mundane Power or an Advantage?

It would be a Mundane Power.

If you search for "Sexy Armor" on this forums, you'll likely find the full description of that power in the section where I posted about Legends of Steel.