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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-HF-Aardvark892 wrote:
Okay, two things. The Fabrica picture ROCKS. Thank you.

I REALLY like the kick attack and push elements. Very very cool. Gives her a lot more depth.

With 27 points, would that mean two setbacks in a 25 point game?

I'll give flickr a try... used to have an account way back when...


2 setbacks in a game set for 25 pts- but as Narrator, I usually set the bar for game about 5pts higher than what it was during creation, so that people will have Hero points to use in game.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could wrap clinging into a multi-power with Super Jump to save you a character point or maybe give The Cricket a damaging weakness (but what are crickets vulnerable to? is there anything that could symbolically fit with her theme?). Maybe there is something special that she needs in order to maintain her powers (an amulate or something). If she goes more than 24 hours without it she looses her powers until she gets it back!

A weakness would put her back into the 25 point range (use the multi-power combo and she'll have24 points with a hero point to boot!).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're all talking about character generation choices way beyond my reading of the rulebook, i.e. I haven't gotten that far into the rules yet!

Mr. Jupiter (can I call you Jupe?), I think I'll go without the weakness only because I feel that the Public Identity is hard enough to deal with.

I really appreciate all the input I've had here with only my first character. Now I'm beginning to believe that the rules have a lot more depth... maybe M&M will be in that graveyard with a rose on it too, soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A blue rose? Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-HF-Aardvark892 wrote:
You're all talking about character generation choices way beyond my reading of the rulebook, i.e. I haven't gotten that far into the rules yet!

Mr. Jupiter (can I call you Jupe?), I think I'll go without the weakness only because I feel that the Public Identity is hard enough to deal with.

I really appreciate all the input I've had here with only my first character. Now I'm beginning to believe that the rules have a lot more depth... maybe M&M will be in that graveyard with a rose on it too, soon.


Sure -HF-Aardvark892, "Jupe" is fine. So is "MrJ". I know what you mean regarding the depth of possibilities with these rules. I used to have a bunch of the MnM 1ed books (and still have the main rulebook for MnM 2ed). MnM is a very, very, very flexible superhero creation system, but I've found that every quirky character concept I've been able to dream up has been do-able with these rules (one way or another). BASH is very satisfying!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please anyone how does one get this Fabrica program. SOOO COOL! I would pay for it!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://caradeedu.vilabol.uol.com.br/antigos/fabrica_x.html

There ya go Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrJupiter wrote:
You could wrap clinging into a multi-power with Super Jump to save you a character point or maybe give The Cricket a damaging weakness (but what are crickets vulnerable to? is there anything that could symbolically fit with her theme?). Maybe there is something special that she needs in order to maintain her powers (an amulate or something). If she goes more than 24 hours without it she looses her powers until she gets it back!

A weakness would put her back into the 25 point range (use the multi-power combo and she'll have24 points with a hero point to boot!).


Clinging is only a 1pt power- so there is no cost savings putting it in a multi-power. I think it is just fine as is, especially for a first-time build!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the link for the fabricas version I'm using...

http://fabricadeherois.blogspot.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eitherprogram takes a little getting used to (say 3-5 tries) before some of the more complicated costuming arrangements become easy to pull off.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Mr J and AslanC!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrJupiter wrote:
Eitherprogram takes a little getting used to (say 3-5 tries) before some of the more complicated costuming arrangements become easy to pull off.

Yep. Layering is one of the most useful approaches for more complex costumes, but it takes some getting used to (and good memory to remember which bit of the costume comes from which layer, if you want to make changes! Smile). But it is definitely worth it, since you get 4 layers (low to high) for each of the body suit pieces, and 2 layers for the jackets, capes, shirts, pants, boots, etc.

Also, I generally find they look better when you apply shading to them. Those shading buttons (down on the bottom near the transparncies) add depth and such really well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: AnimAtomic Reply with quote

Alright!

Just to start, I've changed my first posts Cricket build to incorporate suggestions here in this thread.

Next up; AnimAtomic!

This is a complex character concept. Let me start by giving you my concept. This character draws things, and then animates them. Pretty straightforward. He doesn't dress like a superhero, and he carries around a large drawing pad with him. Anything he draws, he can animate at the same size as the drawing (unless he gives it the Growth power per the Animation rules). I'll list the numbers next, and then I'm going to show you some ideas I had for animations he could create. PLEASE be critical of this build, you rules-lawyers guys... I really think I've got a kicking character here and I'd really like to make sure he's legit.

So here we go... Animatomic (like Animate and Atomic)

Character scale: Street Level
Cost: Attributes 18, Powers 5=23 (thanks Gryfn)
2 Hero Points

BRAWN: 2
AGILITY: 3
MIND: 4 (5 when sketching or drawing)

Attributes cost: 18 points

Powers:
Animation 5 - Concentration, Limit: Only what he can draw (his sketch pad is just usable, not a gadget; he could draw on anything). Gives attribute pool of 7 (Mind limited to 1) and 5 power points - Cost 4

Boost (Mind) 1 - Only when sketching or drawing - Cost 1

Power cost: 5

Skills:
Physical
-Stealth/Hiding (two slots, total x4)
-Athletics/Running (x3)
Mental
-Humanities/Art (two slots, total x6)
-Technology/Invent
-Science/Physics
-Deception/Disguise

Advantage: Versatile
Disadvantage: Age (he's 14)

Mental Malfunction - Views villains as the kind of people who pick on him, and so likes to use his drawings to get back at them (kind of a lame idea... still working on a good Ment. Malf. that would fit him)

EXAMPLES OF ANIMATED OBJECTS
(kind of like a menu of items he regularly uses)

1) "Xwing" - R/C sized Xwing fighter (60 hits)
-B2 A4 M1
Flight 2 (10 sq. per panel)
Special Attack (laser cannons) 2 (total x5 to hit, x2 damage)
Forcefield 1 (40 hits)

2) "Spybots"; a trio of eye shaped multi-legged little bot things (each has 20 hits)
-B1 A5 M1
SuperJump
Clinging
Telepathy 3 (limit: only with AnimAtomic, and visual input ONLY)

3) "Deflection Flies"; 6 little fast moving deflectors, each with 10 hits
-B1 A5 M1
Flight 1 (5 sq. per panel)
Deflect 3 (x8 defense0
SuperSpeed 1 (to reflect being able to move into the line of fire.)
NOTE: this little buggers use the "take the hit" rules

4) "Spider Horse"; a full size multi legged horse thingy (60 hits)
-B2 A3 M1 (used primarily for transportation)
Growth 1 (limit: grows only to regular horse size and cannot revert)
Clinging 1 (and yes, he would draw a seat belt!)
SuperRunning 3 (6 sq. per panel)

5) "Blaster Rifle" (60 hits)
-B1 A5 M1
Special Attack 5 (to hit + multi (total x8), dam +2 multi (total x3)
(this is really weird giving stats and powers to a weapon)

6) "The Mask" (60 hits)
-B5 A1 M1
Keen Sense (vision) 1
XRay Vision 3
Confusion 1 (blinding light ray)

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So, whaddaya think??

-EDIT: changed disadvantage and added mental malfunction
-EDIT 2: dropped Mind by one, added Boost to compensate, fixed total cost figure


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This post was dumb. Got rid of the whole character concept. Sorry for the wasted space.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i think he comes to 24 points
his mind of 5 is a very impressive stat but it isn't doing him much , consider adding a force field , it would have 10 soak and 80 dp increasing his defenses and best of all i think he could animate things right trough it as its basically a mental power, on the other hand concentration is a harsh disadvantages you might want to buy it off for a pt
oh and the art skill i think is for knowing about art
artist i think would be a craft skill and based on agility if your lucky
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